...it's about if you look pro.
who gives a crap about your goofy skinsuit and it's logos.
we got a tent. and chairs.
that's what i say.
even smithers thought we were cool enough to hangout with. oh boy!
bermania could tell who the real pros were too.
ok, on to the track wrap-up.
i was all jonesed for the track racing thursday, we have some national qualifiers right around the corner and i was hoping to really test the form and even more-so the tactical prowess in the long race of the night.
i didn't really give a flying fuck about the other two races on the night.
they aren't really my cup of tea, plus i wanted to really get some good training in during that 60 lap scratch race.
then bergman showed up.
crap. this, of course, changes everything.
that guy is strong. real strong.
too strong.
it's a weird thing when he shows up. everybody knows he just going to ride off-the-front, and lap us in every race, regardless of length.
that's ok, i guess, but track racing isn't always about that.
it really throws the dynamic of the race way way off.
i don't see the need for bergman to lap us 3 times, when he had secured the win after 1.
let the rest of us try racing too.
instead we spend 60 laps +/-, on the rivet, chasing.
and getting nowhere.
and when he gets the lap, he just rolls right through on the way to another.
fine if you can do that, but what is the fucking point? tactically speaking.
so while the race was hard, and a good workout, i was totally unable to accomplish any of my pre-race goals or practice any real strategy.
it was just full gas the whole time.
i dropped out about halfway through.
i could have finished, but it was too frustrating.
i know i'm just bitching, and that "he won, and i lost".
and, "that's why he's a pro".
and, "oh, it's bergman (swoon)".
fact is, i don't really like paying 15 bucks for a LT training session.
i would rather pay 15 bucks for some exciting racing.
track racing is stupid anyway.
when does cx start?
63 comments:
43 days and counting... Have to wonder why Bergman raced too - what was the point?
You know what he's gonna do, why don't you just get on his wheel? Seemed to work out well for Dubay a couple weeks ago.
Dubay tried to stay with him and Bergie cooked the boy's goose. Of course, I'm not a savvy track racer but I am the perfect guy for the announcer's job.
wow, this is the lamest post ever. R u kidding me? Apparently your tactics and strategy weren't very good if you couldn't execute them. Go to any other cat 1-2 race at any other track in the US and there are guys like Bergman there. You should start cross racing right now...
btw, Steven CX, bergman was at the race because he could. He's also thinking about racing at Kenosha and Northbrook while in Illinoir for the upcoming criteriums. He's trying to improve his sprinting. Racing against the best can only make you stronger, if you can't take the beating, then you really don't want to get better...
and another thing, that tent doesn't even belong to you guys! Lame wannabees
skibby,
if he was there to work on his sprint, why was he riding all alone off the front?
you can even say his "attacks" were sprint training... he never attacked, he just rides until we are all dropped.
that is a weak ass arguement.
I like Bergman because he takes directions well.
we tried getting on his wheel Taylor. It was a lot more difficult than I thought it would be.
It sucked. He is way faster.
weak ass argument? not as weak as our riding... Bob was disgusted with us the last time Bergman showed up, good thing he wasn't there last night...
the picture on smithers would suggest that he was there last night.
...
our riding is fine. bergman is a step above us. the only one that could possibly hang with him at this point is Crosby.
hell, it took richter and ferris to outwit him in the sprint race to beat him.
...
I went as hard as I possibly could last night. I fucking fought tooth and nail for every god damn inch on that track.
i am proud of myself for doing so. i am not going to call my riding "lame" because I got beat by a guy that is 20x better than me.
sorry. just won't do it.
you can call your own racing lame, but don't call mine lame. i am proud of how hard i went yesterday.
my racing wasn't lame, your racing wasn't lame...what was lame was the whining that bergman was racing and that one couldn't execute a strategy cause he was there, that's lame... plus saying you're pro cause you're sitting under a borrowed tent... lame...
we own a tent, jesus.
(you are having a tough time with comic relief today).
nothing you are saying makes any sense.
i didn't say anyone's racing was lame.
so clairify for me:
if you disagree with my post, then you are saying that bergman was riding TACTICALLY SMART all night.
if you agree with my post, then you believe he wasn't.
which is it?
I don't know if Bergman's riding made tactically good sense or not, what does it matter? He won the fucking race!!! What I'm saying is quit whining about Bergman being there and not riding a tactical race, who cares? There are guys who are horrible tacticians in picking up women, but if they get laid does it matter? :)
what does it matter? He won the fucking race!!! What I'm saying is quit whining about Bergman being there and not riding a tactical race, who cares?
he won, i lost.
i know.
but, who cares?
what does it matter?
if you asked me, it matters to LSC and sickboy, (for some reason), cares.
even when it is as simple as "he won, i lost".
what's tough is that i can't call bergman a sandbagger. :)
(even though he IS a level above).
It doesn't matter to me that Bergman won. What makes me laugh is the way you three are fighting (like middle school girls, might I add) about how you are (or are not) taking pride in your respective performances during the night. with how this discussion has gone, it's like you're comparing bra cups or penis sizes or something.
it's tough.
it's an art form really.
to be able kiss LSC ass who are whining about not winning...
...and then turn around and kiss LSC ass about not liking those whining about not winning...
unless you are sickboy.
...and you need a new team.
bad.
(if you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything).
Dis, just trying to help bring some edginess to this blog. Hey Sickboy, maybe you could ride for Disco next year? :P
If he's working on his sprint, he should put together a team and show up on Saturday. There's lots of fast guys in his "club", right?
Umm, how on earth does this little dispute get linked to my opinion on a totally unrelated matter? I didn't bitch one bit about not winning. I gave credit where credit was do. I said good race and extended a congratulatory hand. Wasn't my point at all. I'm taking a break from controversy for a while. - SR is cool.
Maybe just maybe, All you 2s at the track should still be 3s...
As a Cat2 your racing with PROS for gods sake, PROS! Do you want to be pro? if not your a 3.
frye, two things:
1. it's the internet, don't ever ever ever take it seriously.
2. if it seems like an insult, it is probably directed at kruse.
no matter what.
I had a spectacular night on Thursday if I say so myself.
Why complain that Bergman showed up and threw down? More high level riders at Blaine will only serve to make everyone faster. It's too easy to get complacent if you know that all you need to do on any given night is sit in for 59 laps, then make a dash for the line with 150 meters to go. That's not going to make anyone faster, and it's not going to attract riders from other tracks, strong riders from other disciplines, or sponsors. If Bergman schooled everyone, don't piss and moan about it, train harder, race with more guts, and raise your own level. It's the only way that Blaine is going to stay vibrant and begin to get any notice on the national scene.
brian,
maybe you didn't bother to read all the responses, and comments, etc.
and i wouldn't blame you if you didn't bother.
i'm getting pretty sick of explaining it.
but, to sum up:
- i'm not mad that bergman is faster. i understand it makes us all faster, eventually.
- the problem is that bergman is not learning shit by riding like he does. for instance, if he went to nationals or some faster track, he'd get smoked because he didn't bother to actually learn how to race on the track. he just rode away.
- sitting in for 59 laps is basically what we ended up doing. instead of attack, using some tactics... instead of racing.
you hit the nail on the head there, but it happened for the opposite reason.
suffice it to say, the race was really really fast, and really really boring.
period.
Dis has a point, but I'm not sure he offered a solution - which some of you seem to imply that he did, at which you took offense to. If dis said, "Bergman should not be able to race at the track", then your response would be justified.
All understanding can be learned from wrestling. If I compete against someone who is far weaker and slower than I am (think Super Rookie), I will pin that person instantaneously. Neither of us can improve our strength or skills in this scenario and the sporting aspect of the competition is void.
So, what is a good solution to this conundrum? Because there is nothing to be gained from the match, it should be handicapped. I should perform a multitude of exercises immediately before the match that would lessen my strength and speed: push ups, arm curls and up-downs. If I still pin my opponent right away, I just increase the amount and intensity of the exercises until I've got a balance that makes the match competitive.
You can see how this easily applies to the Bergman/trackies problem. Bergman should complete series of Super LT intervals (2-3 min long) moments before the events he competes in. This would level the playing field and he could both get a good workout and work on his tactical game. Same for you trackies. If he still blows everyone away in the first race, he would just need to ramp up the number and/or intensity of the intervals he is doing. All of you trackies can be like the women in the LTF Triathlon.
sitting in for 59 laps is basically what we ended up doing. instead of attack, using some tactics... instead of racing
Dude, speak for yourself. I was not "sitting in" for 59 laps, as is the case with several others who actually bothered to chase during that race.
Brain has it nailed, who cares how Bergman won the race? it's our job to try to be competition for him, not bitch and moan about playing cat 3 tactics...
last thing: we're all entirely forgetting the fact that BDube' actually did manage to stick to Adam and deserves props for actually accomplishing (at least for a while) what we all knew we had to do.
My responses are totally justified. Dis was whining that he didn't get to practice his techniques, and whining that Bergman put 3 laps on us. Well he didn't put three laps on Ben Dubay, I didnt'sit in, I worked my ass off chasing. Ben Richter was upset after the race because there was a wall of grumpy's in the way. whining about paying 15 for a LT workout? Seems to me you should be doing more LT workouts. Worrying about race tactics is bush league. Bergman would do just fine racing against guys his own speed. Our guy Brain who is out racing the big boys hit the nail on the head. If you want to put Blaine on the map? Do it by racing against the best, ie SHUT UP AND RIDE!!!
Just a bunch of Dufflepuds...all of ya.
ok.
i didn't want to get mean, but you keep pushing.
you are all wrong.
all of you.
actually, if you bitches remember, last time mr. pro was here he didn't get as many laps on me as he he did on you fucks.
so, actually i know exactly how the fuck to race him.
limit my losses, and turn the screws on you slow shitbags.
go ahead and give yourself all the props you want for chasing bergie around the track. whoop-de-fucking-doo.
all i'm saying, all i've ever said, is: it's really a shame he doesn't bother to learn how to ride on the track.
i know how to lose to him, and i know how to beat you.
so fuck off.
do any of you assholes remember who was the first on on the attack last thursday?
me.
didn't any of you get out in front of bergman, or were you chasing all night?
so what exactly are youo talking about?
i didn't see anyone racing.
you should be ashamed.
now go put your heads out of you asses, and talk about something you actually did.
because all you did was sit in, while adam rode around you again and again.
(even if you thought you were chasing).
fools.
oh, and stop living vicariously through dubay.
it's sad.
"oh, there was one guy who kinda held his wheel... but it wasn't me".
p.s. what wall of grumpys?
it just proves how delusional you all are.
me, tom, tuffy, and LG all weren't there after he first half...
tim may be out-of-shape, but it's not fair to call him a wall.
I wasn't there and don't know what happened.
Based on the responses thus far, I do know this:
I could beat Bergman at wrestling.
SickBoy said...
It doesn't matter to me that Bergman won. What makes me laugh is the way you three are fighting (like middle school girls, might I add) about how you are (or are not) taking pride in your respective performances during the night. with how this discussion has gone, it's like you're comparing bra cups or penis sizes or something.
You are killing me Kruse. You are like that kid in the third grade that tried to get two kids to fight and then they turned and whooped on that kid because neither of them liked the kid.
Add something of value rather than talking about how you chased bergman.
revisionist history, nice. you were not the first one to attack, I did on lap 2. And the last time Adam was here, you and I were dropped, you couldn't even keep up with me, then you took the easy way out and got on Adams wheel and let him pull you around. You were a lot better last year when you spent more time riding and less time trying to be pretty...
I understand that you are mad that you could not really test the form and even more-so the tactical prowess in the long race. But to point the finger at everyone else and say that we should all be ashamed of ourselves is pretty absurd.
I can only speak for myself. My fitness has gone in the toilet since we had the baby at the end of June. That’s life, I am happy for everything and I am not going to sit around and mope and complain for one second about things that are totally within my control.
so fuck off.
Grow up. You got your ass beat by a guy that did not need any “tactical prowess” to do so.
If you want and expect the track program to grow you had best get used to lots of guys coming out and beating you on a regular basis, tactics or no tactics.
Complain all you want about how Bergman does not know how to ride the track, in the end it doesn’t matter one single bit. In the end all you are doing is complaining.
LGR had four guys start that race, what did you do to control things? You knew what Bergman was going to do before the race even started, what strategy did your team put into place to try and do something about it? What did you attempt to do tactically do limit the advantage that Bergman had? Or did you just throw your hands up in the air and say “We’re racing for 2nd place boys.”
me, tom, tuffy, and LG all weren't there after he first half...
Keep that shit up and Bergman, or the next strong guy that shows up, will never have to worry about a god damn thing.
smithers. don't forget that i beat you in for 7th place in two races.
finally some drama!
And the last time Adam was here, you and I were dropped, you couldn't even keep up with me
i'd hate to be accused of revising history, so let's just take a peek at those results...
shall we?
looks like somehow, not only did i not even keep up with you, but somehow manage to lap everyone else but bd and the pro.
racing smart is a good tactic.
on to smithers:
Keep that shit up and Bergman, or the next strong guy that shows up, will never have to worry about a god damn thing.
that's my point! sort of.
what i'm saying is what happens when bergman goes to a track with guys who know how to race and are on equal ground fitness wise?
he'll get schooled.
and it'll continue the sentiment nationwide that the racing at blaine sucks.
i think it's because we don't work on getting better.
believe me, even bergman can get better.
so all of you, IMO, are arguing against making us all better racers.
LGR had four guys start that race, what did you do to control things? You knew what Bergman was going to do before the race even started, what strategy did your team put into place to try and do something about it?
um, i went otf in the first move. figuring the pro would bridge up.
what the the rest of you do?
yes, smithers we had numbers, but don't forget tuffy and LG a cat 3's that have less than 5 mins before finished their long race of the night.
that line does not really hold water.
you are just recycling things that have been said above, so read thought all of that before you chime in next time, thanks.
i don't have time to retype the same shit over and over.
i know, and you know, and adam knows he can ride away.
that is not the point.
you, kruse, skibby, and brian, all seem to think that it is the point, but let me say it again, just to clairify:
the fact that he is stupid fast and can beat me in a bike race is not the point i am disputing.
hear me?
one more time for good measure:
the fact that he is stupid fast and can beat me in a bike race is not the point i am disputing.
now, i want answers.
you have all chimed in on what i did/didn't do, so here's the question:
WHAT DID YOU DO TO BECOME A BETTER TRACK RACER? BESIDES "CHASE"?
i'm serious.
you seem to think you all have it figured out, and i'm crazy.
so, any comment that does not answer the above question will be deleted.
let's hear it.
man up.
WHAT DID YOU DO TO BECOME A BETTER TRACK RACER? BESIDES "CHASE"?
Dude, this is your post. What did you do to become a better track racer? I saw that you dropped out. How did that help you?
In answer to your question, in the situation that I was presented with on Thursday night my one and only option was to hang in as long as possible due to my fitness. I suppose that I could have made some suicide move off the front and pretty much assured that I would not have finished. But, my goal “to be a better track racer” for the balance of the season is to attempt to regain some of the fitness I have lost. The only way to do that was to stay in the race as long as possible. I don’t know if this is the answer you are looking for but there it is.
so all of you, IMO, are arguing against making us all better racers.
Care to guess how much influence I have over Adam Bergman and his racing skills and tactics?
Zero.
Care to guess how much influence I really have over anyone else's racing skills and tactics?
Close to zero.
I read everything you posted and the comments before I commented the first time and I have read them again so don’t give me that “read through all of that before you chime in next time” shit.
Bergman or not, races turn out the way that they turn out. It’s great to have a strategy in place before the race starts but once it begins you deal with the reality of what happens in the race.
It sounds like we are all just misunderstanding your point (dis). So why don’t you just do us all a favor and spell it out for us.
In a perfect world, how would the 60 lap scratch race of last Thursday night turned out for you?
Do you want us all to have some kind of heart to heart talk with Bergman the next time he shows up?
Do you want us to script our races in advance so that we all have the perfect ride?
Did you want us all to race against Bergman?
I’m serious too, what are you looking for here? You may have a valid point but I am not understanding what you want of us so just take a moment and explain it so we can talk about rationally.
I got good training in when Adam was hear, I rode hard for 60 laps, I tried an attack, I chased, I worked with others, it was fun and it will make me a better bike racer.
Tactics are seriously over-rated in track cycling. You want tactics? Play chess. The strongest man wins most of the time. Every once in a while a tactical move will win a race, and we're all happy for him, but the strongest man almost always wins. Right now Bergman could go to LA and race with the rest of our national level racers and do just fine. A couple of years ago Huff showed up at Natz and surprised everybody, and it wasn't with tactics, it was with being a strong rider. Get a grip, you can use tactics when you're playing with your barbie dolls to decide which designer jeans to put on them. In racing, strong legs can overcome tactics. Let me repeat it, strong legs can overcome tactics...
What did I do to become a better track racer? I left Blaine for a while. I sought out tracks where I could ride with people who are faster and, yes, tactically smarter than I am.
This process is no cakewalk. In fact, it entails a lot of chasing. Just last Friday, I spent nearly 15 km alone and chasing the field in the madison, while they hammered the pace and chased Colby Pierce and Bobby Lea. I ended up getting lapped. And guess what? I have no doubts that doing that made me a better track racer. Tactics are only a sliver in the whole pie, (dis). This race brought out some of the best madison riders in North America, but Pierce and Lea didn't win it with tactical savvy. They won it by riding the legs off of everyone else. And I respect them far more for being able to do that than I would have it they had cunningly outwitted the entire field.
Travelling and racing this summer has made me stronger and faster. It has also made me tactically more capable. Both are important, but don't get on someone's case just because they can win without one or the other. Ride your own race, practice tactics when you can, and relish the suffering of chasing. I'll hold in higher regard the person who grits his or her teeth, digs in, and finishs the race 5 laps down on the leader than the person who gets frustrated and drops out. If you're going to quit and give away the race, why even take to the rail?
My post is getting lonely. :)
smithers:
did you really read it?
cuz it's right there.
to quote from the original post:
"so while the race was hard, and a good workout, i was totally unable to accomplish any of my pre-race goals or practice any real strategy"
do i state my pre-race goals?
no.
did i have a uber-cool secret tactical advantage that i didn't get to employ??
no.
did i "have the race scripted" out before hand?
no.
seriously, where in my post are you getting this garbage?
skibby:
you said;
I got good training in when Adam was hear, I rode hard for 60 laps, I tried an attack, I chased, I worked with others, it was fun and it will make me a better bike racer.
I said;
the race was hard, and a good workout
and;
i wanted to really get some good training in during that 60 lap scratch race.
we are saying the same thing.
i'm not sure where you are reading anything else.
Brian:
you say:
It's the only way that Blaine is going to stay vibrant and begin to get any notice on the national scene.
and;
What did I do to become a better track racer? I left Blaine
let's think about that.
because that's the point.
do we all have to leave?
seriously, where in my post are you getting this garbage?
I am getting this 'garbage' because I am still struggling to understand what you what.
You don’t seem inclined to say what you want so I guess that’s the end of my involvement in this thread.
do we all have to leave?
If you want to improve, as opposed to riding against the same group of people all the time, yes you have to leave. Hopefully you'll come back.
Unless you have some other way to take a rider at Brian’s level and bring him to the next level. If you do I wish you would spell it out for us.
Until then I am tired of trying to parse out what point you are trying to make.
Ok, so to be fair and rational here... you posed the question,
WHAT DID YOU DO TO BECOME A BETTER TRACK RACER? BESIDES "CHASE"?
I guess, in that respect, nothing. I think what Skibby and Smithers and Crosby (and myself) are trying to point out is that chasing *is* part of what makes you a better track racer, or road racer, or mountain bike racer, or anything. If you're not comfortable riding hard, well... I got news for ya.
Earlier as well, you were rather adamant about this point:
actually, if you bitches remember, last time mr. pro was here he didn't get as many laps on me as he he did on you fucks.
so, actually i know exactly how the fuck to race him.
limit my losses, and turn the screws on you slow shitbags.
go ahead and give yourself all the props you want for chasing bergie around the track. whoop-de-fucking-doo.
What you did in that points race about a month back was not "racing Bergman." It was "taking advantage of a shitty rule and ensuring yourself third place." I'll give you credit for being opportunistic, and using it to your advantage to beat the rest of us schloobheimers, but using that as a backup to your claim that you "know how the fuck to race Bergman" is a complete crock, so don't lord it over us. At no point were you ever in contention with him, you merely used him twice for free rides around the track while your loudmouthed teammate ran interference. Good on you, bad on us for falling for it- I hope you enjoyed it because it's never happening again.
Like Smithers, I am really confused at the point you're trying to make. You have a guy who is racing THE BEST in the country at T-Town right now, telling you that chasing (and being able to ride hard) is part of becoming a better track racer.
w.r.t. "leaving Blaine" - It's no more probable that someone could win a national MTB championship by racing only Thursday Nights at Buck Hill than it is for someone to "get competitive on a national level" by racing only at Blaine. Our races are "E" races, and don't even qualify for cat 1 upgrade points, which is why we currently only have two cat 1's at our track, both of whom have extensive experience racing elsewhere (and a third cat1 in progress). I really would suggest traveling to a different track before claiming that we can raise the level of competition at ours without traveling elsewhere. Look at the FGF National Track calendar - how many racers from our track have scored points in FGF national series? Two - Luke and Brian, both of whom were laying the wood to us at will earlier this season, and in a more impressive way than Bergman did.
Additionally, you stated:
"so while the race was hard, and a good workout, i was totally unable to accomplish any of my pre-race goals or practice any real strategy"
do i state my pre-race goals?
no.
did i have a uber-cool secret tactical advantage that i didn't get to employ??
no.
did i "have the race scripted" out before hand?
no.
seriously, where in my post are you getting this garbage?
after having stated earlier:
um, i went otf in the first move. figuring the pro would bridge up.
I don't want to point out that you're directly contradicting yourself there.... but you're directly contradicting yourself there.
Furthermore, let's say Bergman bridges up to the "early move" that you were in. Think about what happens next. If you're on even laps with him at that point - what incentive does he have to work with you? Remember, he's not an idiot so if you think you're just going to sit on him and get towed around to the field, you've got another thing coming. Sure, you can try to be all cagey and cover him when he starts attacking you, but I'd put my money on him gapping you, lapping the field without you, and then pulling the field back up to you (which is precisely what he did to Skibby, Skidsy, Smithers and I last Thursday).
Maybe he'd feel pity and not attack you, so long as you pulled through. But, according to you - "chasing" is a lame tactic. You know what makes "chasing" different from "pulling through in a breakaway"? Essentially nothing, other than your position respective to the "field". So if you can't handle chasing from behind, or think it's a lame tactic, what suddenly makes it ok, or makes you think you'll be able to handle it, when you're in front of the field instead of behind a break?
So I answered your question - what did I do to become a better track racer other than chase? Nothing, I guess. Now I pose this question to you: what makes you think you're going to become a better track racer if you refuse to work on your ability to throw down more power?
used him twice for free rides around the track while your loudmouthed teammate ran interference.
Sickboy-
You are so ridiculously dumb.
If you knew what interference was you would probably be on the ground. Never once have we run interference you little prick. We race our bikes. But, you will never see us purposefully slow down a pack.
it is unsafe. for you to even suggest that is bad. very bad.
i don't know what you are trying to do right now, but you are killing me with your idiocy.
we don't ride in an unsafe manner. you piece of crap.
But, you will never see us purposefully slow down a pack.
Dude, like four times that race, you suggested (out loud) that we "sit up and let them lap". I didn't suggest this was unsafe (getting in front and dropping anchor WOULD be, but I didn't suggest that you guys did that), but if it isn't an effort to slow the pack down.... what is it?
and like I said, bad on the rest of us for being too crosseyed to not listen to you.
and yes, you (SR) have a well-documented problem with flapping your mouth while you race, and you're not the only one.
From an outsiders perspective, this has to be to be the dumbest post and group of arguments I've ever read. If you want to grow attendance and a community around the track, this isn't the way to do it. If I didn't know you guys and was thinking of racing the track and I read this, I would never come up there. And, yes Smithers I'm pussified. Ride your bikes hard and if you get dropped, ride harder. If I or you or anyone could lap fields, you, I or anyone would do it. Why wouldn't you? Bergman is in a class above the rest of us and he is following his own training plan. There is a reason he is a Pro and the rest of us are not and won't ever be. I've gone to races and did my prescribed work-out in those races even though tactically it didn't make sense. It sounds like Bergman was doing his prescribed cruise intervals.
Hopefully there are some more track races coming up, because this stuff is better then reality TV.
Flame on!
drama = good
cyclocross = bad
we must be near the 50 comment mark then (Dis) can pull out the "ha suckas, 50 comments, I was just kidding, my blog kicks ass"
we must be near the 50 comment mark then (Dis) can pull out the "ha suckas, 50 comments, I was just kidding, my blog kicks ass"
Phtt, I ain't gonna contribute to that shit because my blog is the one that kicks ass.
Wait...
fuck.
SickBoy said...
and yes, you (SR) have a well-documented problem with flapping your mouth while you race, and you're not the only one.
Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:27:00 AM
I also have a team that I race on.
one word: WOW
Waste Of Wheels
I can't wait for Thursday nite!! - even the WWE can't come up with story lines as good as this!!
This is our 9/11.
NVR 4GET
*single tear*
shit, i'm gonna catch up to tuffy's last post!!
woo hoo!
----What did I do to become a better track racer? I left Blaine
--let's think about that.
--because that's the point.
--do we all have to leave?
Come on folks, there are a lot more efficient ways to become a better track racer. If as Skibby says (hmmmm, skibby says has a nice ring to it) speed and strength are the only things that matter, how do you get faster and stronger??? Seems, to me at least, there is a pink elephant here.
But regardless of that, what fun is shooting fish in a barrel, even if you are doing it legally?
whoa, did homme just pull out a gun at a slap-fight?
y'all better shut the fuck up befor i personall fly to minneapolis with my track bike and my gat. i will lap all your asses and then proceed to glue your tubular tires between your ass cheeks.
skibby, you will be first.
love,
k murder.
i will lap all your asses
but what would be the point of that, tactically speaking? i'm just asking...
drama = good
cyclocross = bad
Oops, Skibby, clearly you made a little mistake there. It goes
drama = bad
cyclocross = good
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